
30 Jul Full Disclosure: 10 Community-Building Lessons & Mistakes I Wish I Knew Before I Started
“Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful, committed people can change the world. Indeed, it is the only thing that ever has.” – Margaret Mead
The Difference A Year Can Make
Last Friday, Live Your Legend had its second birthday. Chelsea and I even went out for a date night in Sausalito to celebrate.
While my first blog post was written about six years ago (before I knew it was a blog), it’s hard to believe the official LYL has only been around for a couple years – especially when I think about the near endless string of emotions that lead to me being able to publish today’s post.
For me, life is a constant experiment. I am always the student. And looking back on a year of learning and progress reminds me of something Tony Robbins said: “Most people overestimate what they can accomplish in a year – and underestimate what they can achieve in a decade.”
While I think he’s right, I believe this ratio is even more powerful as it scales down…
It’s difficult to feel progress in a single day, but when you stack together a year of focused effort towards a vision and movement you deeply believe in, the results can become difficult to ignore.
It’s been a hell of a ride, and I share the below with you, both because it’s fun to see where our movement has come in a year, and because I hope it’s helpful as you build you own.
Here’s a few of the fun things than happened in year two:
- Community members (subscribers) grew from 15,739 to 41,890
- 863,000 visitors from 181 countries stopped by to check out our career and connections tools
- Revenue grew by 288%
- We did a massive course upgrade (free to existing members) and launched it as Live Off Your Passion – Guided Discovery
- The Live Your Legend Team began to take shape
- We created our flagship How to Connect With Anyone course and community, and already graduated two classes of students (next opening is early September, so keep an eye out!)
- I got the chance to give a TEDx talk on How to Find & Do Work You Love – and somehow it’s managed to get over 590,000 views
- We hosted our first LYL Live event in San Francisco, and since then we’ve had reader-hosted events all over the world, including Sydney, Montreal, London and Vancouver
But much more importantly, our the real measure of success is impact and engagement…
While all that stuff is fun and rewarding to see unfold, none of it makes a bit of difference if the work we’re doing here isn’t changing the lives of our community. This is a much more difficult metric to properly measure, so I thought I’d just share two reader comments that touched me recently…
Today I wanted to write to express my gratitude to you. For changing my life. Your articles have expanded my view so much that now I TRULY BELIEVE that I can be something. You taught me that life doesn’t have to be boring and dull, but it can be amazing, superb and just breathtaking. Your articles and free stuff that you all put hours to make and then give it for free. I just respect you for that.
I still have to go a long way, but at least I have a view of the path I want to follow. So thank you so much for guiding me. For making me believe in me. THANK YOU. With gratitude and love… L.K.
And something from one of the more inspiring members of our Connect With Anyone (CWA) community…
I am not sure if you are aware what you created for all the CWA people who attended WDS. The amazing thing that happened was when everyone met in person, it was as though they had known each other a lifetime.
CWA is not about being able to ‘connect with anyone.’ The greatest benefit of CWA is that people are surrounding themselves with the people they need and subsequently people are reaching for bigger dreams than they ever thought possible. It was a pure delight to witness. – Naz
Naz happens to be her own perfect example of reaching for big dreams, but you’ll hear more from her in our next Reader Spotlight.
Hearing these two stories leads me to the biggest milestone of all …
In the past year, Live Your Legend transitioned from simply being a resource for making your impact, to becoming a community of world-changers who inspire, support and guide each other to make it possible to do the things most believe can’t be done.
That is not something I could ever dream to do on my own.
And as with all useful experiments, that realization didn’t come without plenty of trial and error. And it wasn’t exactly painless, either. So in the spirit of reflection, I’d like to share a few of the core lessons and mistakes I believe are at least partially responsible for Live Your Legend making the transition from concept to community.
10 Community-Building Lessons I Wish I Knew Before I Started
1. Engage on Multiple Levels. Text and articles are a start, but real community is created when people can feel your emotions, see your pain and experience your passion. The more we can do to be human with those we’re trying to help, the greater the impact. Do video, podcasts, interviews, host events, show up, be present – anything to authentically share your story. Filming over a dozen videos for Connect with Anyone brought the learning experience to a totally new level. And Giving my TEDx talk was easily the most impactful 18 minutes of my career. Since the video went live, our community has grown at 3-5 times the rate prior – and six months later, it hasn’t stopped.
2. Live with Transparency. This goes for everything from building a business to leading a revolution or courting your wife. Many people and companies try to puff out their chest and act like they’re someone they’re not. They cover their warts and keep all the details secret. While some things are obviously better kept private, I believe most should be shared.
The more transparent you are, the more helpful you become. That’s why I share as much as I do about LYL’s specific numbers, the big things I’m working on and the things I screw up. I want you to learn as much from this experience as I do. You are a huge part of this story and movement, and I’d say that earns you a view from the inside.
3. Don’t Abuse Freedom. Just because I can technically operate LYL from anywhere and have the freedom to move about the world, doesn’t mean I always should (or that it’s the most sane or effective way to build a business). I said yes to way too many things this year and it has flat-out worn me down. The overwhelm of constantly saying “yes” took away from how amazing each of these adventures would have been in isolation. It also diluted the focus I want to give to the people and things that really matter to me.
Not to mention, it’s near impossible for me to keep my momentum without having my routine. Some of my friends are incredible at this. I am not (at least not yet…). Freedom is meant to help build upon your impact, not detract from it. Lately I’ve remedied this by connecting with our community during my travels. I look forward to doing a lot more of that, especially during our around-the-world trip next year.
4. Build Upon What You Have. Starting new projects is usually more exciting for me than enhancing existing ones. But constantly jumping to the next shiny thing leads to missed opportunity. The last 10% of a project is usually the most grueling, but can also lead to the biggest 80/20 return on effort. I spent about three months of the past year doing major enhancements to our Live Off Your Passion course (now called LOYP Guided Discovery). That time eventually lead to a user experience that I believe is at least 10 times better.
It also lead to many hundreds more people joining the course. And I made it a totally free update to all past purchasers, as a way of showing my huge gratitude to the existing community. But in order to see this project through, I had to say no to a lot of exciting ideas. When thinking of how to grow your community, business and impact, don’t overlook what’s already at your core.
5. Let the Wind Take You Places. The only new project I did take on in the last year was How to Connect With Anyone. I did it because I believe a supportive and inspiring community is the foundation for anyone having an impact on the world. But at the beginning of the year, I had no idea it would exist. I just started to notice the hundreds of people writing in asking for help on how to meet and befriend inspiring mentors and peers. Eventually their cry for help became impossible to ignore.
CWA has since turned into the most impactful project of my life. It’s also our biggest source of revenue. But none of it would have existed if I stuck to a few rigid goals set at the beginning of the year. The nature of the path is that you cannot see the end when you start. That’s also what makes it so damn fun.
6. Environment is Everything. This is the heart of Live Your Legend. The fastest way to do the things you don’t think can be done is to hang around people already doing them. A couple years ago, I changed my surroundings. That caused this community to go from growing by 0% in 4 years to 160 times in the next 18 months. I simply started hanging around people who showed me what was possible. That’s why I’ve invested so much energy into Connect With Anyone and why I’m so proud of the community you all have helped build here. The day I stopped trying to do things on my own was the day everything changed.
7. Bring People Together in the Real World. Environment and community can be built in all kinds of ways. And while connecting through the web is a fine (and rather powerful) place to start, it’s still just the start. When people with a common set of beliefs come together in the real world, it creates a magic like I’ve never seen.
Over a dozen Live Your Legend events have been hosted around the world in the past year. As a result, for the first time in many of these people’s lives, they were surrounded by people who believed what they believed – people who genuinely understood them on a human level. We all crave this. Bringing people into the real world has transformed the bond and impact of this community in a way I couldn’t have imagined. And we have barely scratched the surface – so keep an eye out!
8. A Team Makes So Much More Possible. For a while, I did everything at Live Your Legend on my own. Partially out of necessity and partially out of pride. But the more I met other people having a real impact, the more I noticed that they all had help. And damn good help at that. As LYL has grown, it’s gotten pretty much impossible to manage it all on my own, especially if we want this movement to have a chance at reaching its potential.
I now have a handful of people who have become indispensable members of the team. The biggest addition has been Liz Seda, a community member who magically appeared out of nowhere. She now does a ton around here, but what I’m most proud of is her role with our Connect With Anyone Community. She hand-places every new member into custom mastermind groups with 3 to 5 other folks who have similar goals, interests and locations. As a result, Liz has been responsible for best friends being born, businesses being launched and lots of lives being changed. No one does anything on their own. I am no exception. If I could do it over again, I would have gotten help way earlier.
9. Create Space. I have never had a decent idea come to me while pecking away at a keyboard. Live Off Your Passion was born during a long run in SF and further hashed out during a road trip through Tuscany. Connect With Anyone came from a tea session at Samovar. The Passionate Work Framework came while traveling Turkey with ten friends. And the Live Your Legend movement was born while reading The Alchemist as I sat on a fallen tree next to a river in the heart of Patagonia, Chile while fly-fishing with my dad.
Literally every good idea I can remember has come from outside my office. Creativity cannot thrive without space. Yeah, I know that scheduling “nothing” for a few days is a pretty tough thing to do. But I now see it as mandatory. I block off a few down days every couple months to simply get out, explore, surround myself with inspiration and give ideas some room to breathe.
In fact, tomorrow morning my dad and I are catching a flight through Alaska to The Kamchatka Peninsula in far east Russia for another little fishing adventure. I don’t even think they’ve heard of Internet out there. It’s a little scary to be disconnected for that long, but something tells me the timing is perfect (plus my team has my back!). My dad is my informal Chief Strategist, and with where LYL is headed, we have some big thinking to sort out. LYL was born on our last fishing trip, which makes me a little giddy thinking of what might come of this one.
10. People Make an Impact Possible.
At times, progress can seem slow. Painfully slow. But looking back, it’s fascinating to see how much can actually happen in what can seem like the blink of an eye.
But what’s more fascinating is when you notice a single source that’s responsible for it all. That one’s easy…
The People. The community. The friends. The mentors. The inspiration.
YOU.
The only lesson that’s really mattered in the past year is rather simple: people change everything. The more we can do to bring people around a common cause – and like-minded people around each other – the greater our impact becomes.
That’s where possibility lives.
For now, I’m off to Russia to clear some space, hang out with my favorite teacher and apply some big thinking to how we can all embrace what you have made possible here at LYL.
I have to pinch myself looking back to see where we’ve come.
Thanks for allowing this to exist.
-Scott
How about you? How have the right (or wrong) people changed the impact you’re having or plan to have? Share in the comments.
For a list of my first year’s lessons, click here.
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Kevin Cole
Posted at 07:22h, 30 JulyCommunity is absolutely everything. No doubt about it.
There’s some seriously big ideas in here I am working on implementing with my own community. The idea about engaging on multiple levels is probably the #1 thing on my own list at the moment.
No matter where we are at in our journey, progress is always being made. It’s incredible what can be accomplished in a year’s time.
Here’s to another kick ass year Scott!
Scott
Posted at 09:29h, 30 JulyAnd the same to you Kevin! Sounds like you’ve got a few fun things planned yourself. Be sure to come back and share them with us!
Kevin Cole
Posted at 10:28h, 30 JulyWill do!
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Sebastian
Posted at 09:44h, 30 JulyI like Nr. 5. Reminds me of the saying:
“You are the average of the five people you spend the most time with”
Sebastian
Posted at 09:45h, 30 JulyI mean Nr. 6…
Scott
Posted at 13:14h, 30 JulyHaha. I’ve stopped mentioning that quote as much because I feel like a broken record ;). But there’s seriously nothing more powerful. Jim Rohn is a genius!
Elana Miller
Posted at 10:59h, 30 JulyThis is so great Scott! I’m so happy for you and everything you’ve been able to accomplish in these last few years. And such a great point about needing to find space – it’s hard to force yourself to slow down or stop, but it’s the best time for ideas to come. Congrats again on your success, it makes me joyful to read about how well you’re doing 🙂
Scott
Posted at 13:15h, 30 JulyWell it’s only happening because of your support and all the other folks around us. So thank YOU. Lot’s more fun to come!
Maria
Posted at 13:51h, 30 JulyHi Scott! I’m really happy and proud of you. Fitness Reloaded also had its 2nd birthday a week ago, and I can’t even describe how happy I am with having an impact on other people’s lives.
One of my favorite things in the whole world is when readers e-mail me and say: “I used to hate exercise all my life, but now I am doing it daily”, or “I always wanted to exercise, but I am now actually doing it and liking it!”
I wish you an amazing 3d year, and a LYL community that is strong, heart-warming, and growing!
Scott
Posted at 13:23h, 31 JulyThat’s the greatest success of all Maria! Congrats to you on making the world healthier. Been so fun to see you run with it!
Michael Judd
Posted at 14:36h, 30 JulyHi Scott, I just want to let you know that I am loving all you can offer. I am in the process of creating my own community. I answered a question last week about who I would choose to mentor my business and of course I mentioned you!
Congratulations on 2 years!!!
Regards,
Mike
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Scott
Posted at 13:24h, 31 JulyWow-what an honor! So what’s the project all about?!? Share with us…
Christian
Posted at 14:46h, 30 JulyScott,
Coming off of WDS last month, my work has been supercharged. There is something very liberating about being around thousands of other people like me, all in one place.
The challenge for me is to keep the effort consistent. I’m still working to find the people in my own life who can keep me on track and support my “crazy” ideas. It’s especially hard when traveling, although as a whole, travelers are some of the easiest people to connect with in the shortest amount of time. The challenge is maintaining habits on the road, and adjusting to new people and circumstances every few weeks.
Keep inspiring those around you.
Christian
Scott
Posted at 13:36h, 31 JulyI know exactly what you mean about WDS! And we have a few things in mind to keep you connected and accountable in the real world. Thats a huge focus around here. More coming soon!
Jon Chandonnet
Posted at 15:10h, 30 JulyScott,
Eight years ago I began my journey to health and well-being living with MS. Six years ago. I had made a profound shift and wanted to write about it to share what I learned. I teamed up with a writing coach who taught me to write narrative and who ushered me through the editing process.
The book is now done, and I have a great team helping me prepare to publish and helping me launch coaching and speaking careers.
I have big dreams and would probably be chasing my tail without all of the support. I’m a member of your first class of Connect With Anyone. Thank you for all of the wisdom, insights, and guidance that have helped build my confidence as I look to reach out.
Would love to give you a copy of my book as a show of appreciation. Where can I send it?
Have a great trip!
Jon
Scott
Posted at 13:46h, 31 JulyWow Jon. What a story- huge congrats to you!! Love knowing you were a part of CWA1. Your contribution means a lot.
And we’d love to feature your story. If you’re game send a note to scott at liveyourlegend dot net. Can’t wait to learn more!
And awesome about the book offer. Excited to see! We’ll respond to your email with an address.
Jon Chandonnet
Posted at 14:18h, 07 AugustThanks Scott!
I will be up in Sonoma next week and could meet in person at your favorite spot and give you the book.
Not sure this works. If this doesn’t work, I can put a copy in the mail.
Let me know what works best!
Jon
James Clear
Posted at 17:26h, 30 JulyMy man — I love that you took a moment to look back on how far things have come. It’s been so awesome to watch you grow over the last few years. I’m constantly inspired by your work.
You’ve got a great community for sure, but they have an equally great leader. I can’t wait to see what happens when we look back this time next year.
p.s. Those Kamchatka trout don’t stand a chance!
Scott
Posted at 13:48h, 31 JulyYou’ve taught me more than you realize buddy. And we’re only just beginning! Oh and nice work finding the rocket fuel for jamesclear.com. Very impressive and well deserved!
Tom Reber
Posted at 17:42h, 30 JulyScott-
What a great post. Thanks for speaking with such transparency.
The best line from the post IMO was
“Freedom is meant to help build upon your impact, not detract from it.”
Thanks again!
Tom
Scott
Posted at 13:49h, 31 JulyThat was an important one to learn Tom!
Rhydian
Posted at 07:52h, 31 JulyHey Scott,
Thanks for making Live Your Legend and this great post! I’m starting my own online community and I was just wondering if there were any books that you would recommend?
Thanks again
Rhydian
Scott
Posted at 13:52h, 31 JulyNice work getting started. What’s the community about? Hmm as for books I’ve heard brandscaping is really good. Same with both of Chris Guillebeaus books. Oh and Inbound Marketing was crazy powerful for me in the beginning! But the best way is to really study the people and communities you admire the most. Enjoy!
Rhydian Fairfax
Posted at 04:38h, 01 AugustThanks for your reply, amazing that you get back to everyone! I’m starting a website about helping people to motivate themselves to make positive changes to their life. I bought some of the books you mentioned I will study you closely! Thank you
Martin Poldma
Posted at 08:32h, 31 JulyReally good post, thanks for sharing, your story is very inspiring, keep up doing the good work!
Scott
Posted at 13:53h, 31 JulyThanks for being a part of it!
Jp
Posted at 10:19h, 31 JulyHi Scott!
This message comes all the way from the Philippines, Simon Sinek led me to you.
To cut my story short, I’ve been lost and found my way back again because of people like you.
And I really thank you.
Soon, I’ll be conducting “talks” that hopefully inspires the younger generation here in my country.(and possibly create a ripple effect)
Wherein the contents would be based from you and other mentors.
Please don’t stop being awesome.
And hopefully you can visit the Philippines too.
Regards,
Jp
Scott Dinsmore
Posted at 22:17h, 31 JulyLove hearing this JP and I can’t wait to make it out your way on our trip next year!
Jp
Posted at 05:27h, 01 AugustWow, I’m looking forward to that!, hopefully I get to meet you too.
By the way, You are absolutely correct about number 9.
Thanks again!
sara
Posted at 11:29h, 31 JulyHi Scott !
Community is key but how do you connect with people who are already doing what you wanna do ?
Right now the only person I hang out with is my partner, we are like-minded but he’s just where I am. I know no one where I live, and I’m heavily pregnant so socializing is a bit tough.
Any ideas ?
Scott Dinsmore
Posted at 22:15h, 31 JulyFirst off congrsts on having a partner who sees the world the same way. That is the biggest first step. And I am so glad you asked about connecting with the other folks Sara. We’ve actually spent a ridiculous amount of time on helping people with this. It’s actually the foundation of our Connect with Anyone community. We’ll be taking a lot more about all this in the coming weeks so keep an eye out. I can’t wait to share it with you!
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Posted at 18:22h, 31 JulyHi Scott
Number 6. “Environment is Everything.” is so correct! By associating with those you aspire to be like and learn from should be life’s number one lesson for our youth today! Working with kids as my day job this is a constant message to them… and very practical for all us adults in the business world as well!
Enjoyed this article and is the first time I came across your blog, which is excellent.
Thanks
Chris
Scott Dinsmore
Posted at 22:20h, 31 JulyAwesome that you stopped by Chris and even more amazing to hear you’re sharing the importance of community with people so early on. That’s huge. And great timing because we’ll be talking a ton about surroundings in the next few weeks. Wait until you see next weeks post!
Raymond
Posted at 20:08h, 31 JulyHi Scott,
Thanks for sharing. I particularly like point number 8. After all as human beings we can’t do do everything on our own and building a team around is absolutely important. It enables us to achieve much more and as a result serve more people in the long run.
Scott Dinsmore
Posted at 22:21h, 31 JulyCrazy how powerful it can be. I can’t wait to see how the LYL team evolves in the coming months and years!
Craig Dewe
Posted at 10:46h, 01 AugustHey Scott,
I love your posts about the lessons you’ve learned as it helps so much when we’re working on our own projects and communities. You truly are a model for building something remarkable.
I look forward to watching your continued growth and what comes out of the next fishing trip. Exciting times 🙂
Thanks heaps,
Craig
Winnie
Posted at 21:07h, 04 AugustHi Scott,
Through the “Should I Quit” survey, I got to know about this community. I am new to here and haven’t read the articles yet, but I really amazed by the idea of Live your legend. I think everyone deserves to work for his or her passion.
Thanks for the sharing and your effort in building this community. 🙂
Krista
Posted at 23:05h, 04 AugustWow, it’s been really great hearing your story and learning from what you have learned along the way. I am gearing up to start a new blog/online business, and your materials are giving me a lot of food for thought. I am excited to see how I can implement these things in my own life & circumstances. Thanks again!
Alessandro
Posted at 01:37h, 05 AugustHi, Scott. Thanks for your post: I totally agree with you about “passion” that should animate all your activity, in fact I wrote many post on the same subject on my site, since a long time, now: http://www.itware.com/blog-itware/societa-civile-social-media-start-up/item/537-ritorno-al-futuro-imprenditore-o-finanziere?-sognatore-o-speculatore?-si-pu%C3%B2-lavorare-con-passione-e-non-solo-per-denaro?
I’m following your content, and I’m glad to inform you that I have included your blog at the fifth place of my Top Blogger List for Italian Entrepeneur and Start Upper.
Unfortunatly, I’m not sure you can understand Italian, but I’m sure you will recognize your name, and my comment, in the list:
http://www.itware.com/blog-itware/societa-civile-social-media-start-up/item/873-blog-per-start-upper-guida-ragionata-a-quelli-da-seguire
Ashley P
Posted at 15:10h, 05 AugustThis is great advice, I will definitely use these tips in my own life. Thanks for sharing!
Martin
Posted at 15:16h, 05 AugustI have a brand new site and was wondering how you would build community from the ground up.
Peter
Posted at 17:50h, 05 AugustI am also new to this community and this is what I have been looking for. I already have got some extra motivation for your TEDx talk. And just wanted to say ‘Thank you.’ I also wanted to mention that I have been looking to do “something”, but not sure of what to do… I am definitely using the resources of LYL to help me find out that road less traveled. Talk at ya later.
Sheila Kayaga Miriam
Posted at 01:37h, 06 AugustThanks Scot,
Serving Community has inspired,impacted & changed my attitude & conduct towards my neighbor.Also when i stopped to try doing things on my own my life become light i.e not heavy load.Lack of transparency was the major cause of 2 failed business partnership that i threw in the towel.I encourage others to be transparent.
Scot how would you go about or alternative in event of a situation of lack of transparency without having to quit or creating a feeling of antagonism,insensitive to an open or closed group,relationships.
Rob Leonardo
Posted at 07:01h, 06 AugustI am creating a small community in my blog for those who, like me, struggle with self-confidence. I find this article inspiring and useful. Scott, I think your generosity to share this with everyone is not only making an impact on those who join your community but as well s those who create their little communities learning from you. Here’s one person who share this community-creating passion that ‘changes the world’one person at a time!
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